Monday, November 12, 2007

De-Finning CJ Nelson and His Crew

CJ, recognize these?

After days of you and your crew ignoring basic manners and showing only contempt to everyone else in the water, the Hand of 2nd Point Justice was left with no choice but to take dramatic action.

I regret only that I did not act sooner.

Scorpion Bay was filled with surfers complaining about the behavior of you and your crew. If pissing off virtually everyone was not enough, watching you bitch out an old man who you had burned over and over again was.

Of course, we didn't take your boards, just your fins. We did it very carefully, so as not to cause any permanent damage.

It was a pleasure to watch you surf... just somewhere far from Scorpion Bay, please.

If you do come back, please consider a little respect.

HAVE SOME THOUGHTS FOR CJ OR ON THE HEIST, PLEASE POST A COMMENT.

299 comments:

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f said...

Right on. I hate assholes in the water and off. Having learned how to surf in Hueneme and Silver Strand you learned how to deal w/jackoffs quickly.
Love your subtle approach.
Gracias

MR said...

This is the funniest thing I've read in a long time.

Anonymous said...

i love it!

that guy said...

Sounds like the little shits needed a basic life lesson.More power to you guys for giving it.

hilarious !

Anonymous said...

Well done...next time take the wings off the Billabong Plane and tell them to take the bus home.

Anonymous said...

Did they fly down there on the Billabong sea plane? That's just as bad as the Royal Pelagic squattin in the bay.

Al Soldano said...

I'm glad CJ and his crew had their fins confiscated. I'm also glad their baja trip was cut short.

Anonymous said...

That's awesome! I hate cockbags bringing their local asshole attitude to other breaks.

Anonymous said...

He He He...

Hey, wanna sell those fins?

sylvain said...

you're right guys !

sylvain from france

Anonymous said...

These fins should become trophys for those brave enough to impart justice in the future. They would be tokens of the first strike against the current upswing in traveling localism.

pushingtide said...

Whatever happened I am sure was deserved. Keep on truckin'.

Anonymous said...

so funny

on surf4all.net we are all laughin of those dumb surfers

keep the finzzzz or sell it on ebay


french fan ahaah

Ed Fladung said...

F*ckin' A. right on.

Anonymous said...

hey cj thanx 4 giving longboarders a bad name asshole.get a grip bitch and show RESPECT to other surfers and especially to older ones.all you younger SC guys are bunch of maggots get a life.......old school SC

Anonymous said...

I was one of the 60+ men in the lineup last week, and I couldn’t agree more with the poster. Not only did CJ threaten to beat up a 63 year-old man, he caught a baby seal, clubbed it to death, and ate its raw flesh right in the line up, then proceeded to make love to his woman on the rocks, mocking the impotence of half of us out in the water!

And his friends! After those guys would take a wave, they’d paddle back to the lineup faster than you could say “que paso?” and be on the next wave, doing those little fancy tricks of theirs. Don’t they know, down here we surf like we live—straight! As a customer who pays good money for ATV rides back up the beach after a wave, I am incensed and outraged by this inconsideration. Then, after my buggy ride, when I’d try to out paddle and push everyone deeper past the takeoff spot, one of their friends would have the nerve to grab the shoulder after I’d blow the takeoff behind the rock. All I have to say is, thank god for leashes! Do these young punk surfers have any respect for a retired mutual fund money manager who has been coming down to Scorpion Bay for the last two years? Do they know how instrumental I’ve been in outsourcing American jobs to China, creating the largest concentration of wealth ever seen in our country, while shrinking the middle-class? I, along with my friends, have worked very hard to take the land away from the locals with our hard-earned American dollars, and we won’t let a bunch of surf bums take our waves! I’ll tell you what, when I open my souvenir shop, these guys will not have the honor of wearing one of my puffy paint Scorpion Bay t-shirts that come in S, M, L, and XL. This CJ Nelson, let me tell you. Trying to make a living off of surfing!

Then get this. They stayed up almost every night until 9pm and reportedly they were drinking beer! On Wednesday night, they were up until the ungodly hour of 10pm with some bearded, long-hair hippy bum who called himself John Peck, talking about Eastern Mysticism, transcendentalism, and in some spiritual gesture put sage on their campfire, which I could smell while I was trying to enjoy my fibrous dinner in the comfort of my air-conditioned trailer, and then held a prayer. Tell this Mr. John Peck I don’t want to hear some Eastern guitar modes when I’m trying to read the Economist and keep religion where it belongs—in our schools and government institutions. He should grow up like other men his age, throw away his Dylan records like we did our sophomore year at USC, and CJ and his little friends should respect us like they respect him. How do they know we’ve been kooks all of our life? For all they know, I could have been one of those Woodstock longhair guys who was a longboarding legend in the 60s too. I mean, I didn’t do any of those things, but I do own the Woodstock DVD and purchased the whole Bruce Brown movie catalogue from Amazon.com and that counts for something. That’s the beauty of today’s sterilized surf world—you don’t even need to live the life to call yourself a surfer!

Their presence last week really got my BVDs in a knot, let me tell you. The pomposity of these low-lifes, to think they can come in and enjoy the open desert without the same restrictions of freedom we’ve employed back in the States. After we’ve paved the town of San Juanico, I might even help create a huge, profitable police force then install those traffic violation cameras that my old company manufactures, just to remind all campers that freedom comes with a price while keeping our company stock healthy. Until then, I can’t wait until I get my beach house built with huge walls and barbed wire, so my friends from the Tennis Club can fly down in their private planes and enjoy the waves in peace.

Speaking of private planes, why don't CJ and his crew take a lesson from those guys up the beach who flew in on that huge, bloated Billabong plane? That is true style! These respectable, clean-cut, jet-ski riding kids would never be caught dead polluting the Cantina with cigarette smoke, that's for sure.

I’ll tell you what. I’m glad CJ and his friends’ fins were stolen—that should show them a thing or two. If there is one thing I’ve learned in life, it’s to show people who is boss in the dark of night when everyone is sleeping, in the true Neo-Conservative Republican spirit, or behind the anonymous cloak of the internet. I’ll admit, I was sure surprised how fast I could still run when their terrified female friend woke up screaming, scared out of her mind. Oops! Did I just give myself away? Oh well, yeah I have your fins. If I could only figure out a way to stick one into my soft top.

I have one question for these greenhorns. As we watched you high tail it out of San Juanico, why were you all laughing saying we should have scraped the wax off for you too? I also thought I heard something about the irony of the whole thing, CJ owning a fin company by the name of Captain Fin Co. I’ll tell you what, if we get this straightened out, is there any way I can get in on the action? Maybe we could make a Scorpion Bay fin model and further publicize this place. I’ll make you rich, boy!

Anonymous said...

^^^

apparently one of those fins belongs to this guy. What a tool.

Anonymous said...

Justice must always prevail!

Love this story!

Anonymous said...

My word verification was, oddly enough, fkksc. I think that says it all.

from east LA with Love said...

Since when did suburban assholes and their soccer moms start claiming scorpion bay? May you all be smoothered in John Pecks burning sage fire! Get a lil soul, Good luck actually surfing with those fins you yuppy fucks.... Just be glad the place still exists, while your rich uncle plans his new harbor for the yacht club. Youwant to have respect down there then learn some fucking spanish.

Troy said...

Awesome.

Anonymous said...

this is fuckin' great!! way to go!!!

Anonymous said...

If CJ of his buds happen to read this, I always say it doesn't matter if you are the most skilled surfer in the whole world - if you don't respect the line up & practice proper ettiquette, you're the WORST surfer out there every time. No one owns these waves. No on edeserves them more than anyone else. Sometimes giving up a wave to a newbie or an old man who may not have that many more to ride can make you feel a whole lot better than nailing your latest trick. Try it sometime.

Anonymous said...

Just don't put it all on CJ and crew. From what I heard there was something totally out of line that was said in the water, but not by CJ. Don't pin that incident on the whole group. There was also a poor old guy who got threatened by a young guy, but it was a guy with long blonde hair in a pony tail who was camping at 3rd point and I saw the whole thing happen. Both those things are terrible, no doubt. It wasn't CJ. You've completely fabricated the story and it shows how bad rumors can get. There were 30 guys in the lineup last week and 20 of them couldn't surf. At least 15 of those were aggressive wave jockeys without the skills to back up their behavior, such as Mr. Frenchy who was just learning how to surf with his girlfriend, or the lady who caught the best set wave of every set. When that happens, all hell breaks loose, as people who are waiting in line and want to be respectful get jockeyed then have to start jockeying back, and it leaves the polite people in the dust. Just like our crappy American way of life we call capitalism. My apologies to anyone cool who wasn't getting their fair share of waves. If guys like Ray are reading this, hats off to you. A great surfer, great attitude, and a good example to us a younger folks. I can't say it enough. If you guys had a problem, just come to the camp and say it. So simple. All I got were smiles and people coming up to talk to us all week, with no idea how apparently unpopular we were. Man, some people down there need to grow up.

Anonymous said...

I think that's the problem though, Mr. "I make money in America to fund my travels in other countries yet I shit on my country" - you think you're better than the rest of the surfers out there . . . that approach wears thin real quick. Plus, if true, showing up with 10 guys IN AND OF ITSELF is deserving of some kind of backlash, bad karma, etc.

Not anonymous - Peter S. in Oceanside, CA.

Anonymous said...

I was down for the hideous scene too . The point you are missing is the Camera and the Film Maker ...I'm Banning purchasing any new surf movies after seeing this side of it...12 to 15 guys all day long never getting out how much 2nd pt footagage do you need? last years movie had enough of the same how bout some orginal stuff.

Anonymous said...

I think the white one is Steve Clevelands psuedo filmaker

Anonymous said...

10 guys showing up at a baja point at once is the problem. Could have saved a lot of gas by just going to Malibu.

People don't go to Baja to deal with self righteous dicks jockeying for poistion regardless of the cause. Even if everyone was cool in the water I'm sure you would have paddled around them to get the best waves of the set because you are good and have entitlement. BS if you ask me. A lof of us work jobs and have to use valuable vacation time to enjoy places like this.

Anonymous said...

u guys are heroes. dorks like that have ruined surfing. i only wish you'd been meaner and removed their legs :)

Anonymous said...

Peter, your name says it all. Are you the windbag who has been down once and now is trying to dictate the rules of the place? I laugh in your face, puny man.

FYI, we were separate people, friends, who were all planning on going anyway, and decided to follow each other and camp together. But why a good guy such as Cleve or anyone else would have to defend themselves to you is a discredit to the democracy of the internet, the only place where you have a voice because your wife probably already stole your balls.

Anonymous said...

all longboarders should suffer this punishment

Anonymous said...

Anonymous - all I know is what I read. If it's false, so be it - apology extended. If ANY of it is true (the large group, cameras, general hassling in the water), then the fin removal was not only warranted, but a stroke of genius.

Before you fire off another anonymous post about who I am and my marriage with my wife, consider e-mailing me to meet up for a surf in Oceanside next time you pass through: lariojaesbueno@yahoo.com.

I don't hold grudges and, if you care, would listen to your side of the story. You're call.

Anonymous said...

So it seems that some of the posts above have been written by CJ and his crew.

The excuses are pathetic.

If they had done anything but make enemies down there, people would be defending them. But no one is.

They were assholes to everyone and should be able to laugh at themselves and grow up a little.

Even Surfline is having a laugh at their expense.

Anonymous said...

Please dont try and cover up for CJ. Whoever wrote this is wrong: "From what I heard there was something totally out of line that was said in the water, but not by CJ".

It was CJ who terrorized the old man with violence. Not only is it the story of the old man but severel people witnessed him yelling to "take the old man out of the water and beat his ass".

Anybody who doesn't believe it was CJ can do a little research and discover that it was him.

What he did is beyond acceptable. He is luckiy that those who chose to act were kind enough to only de-fin him.

If you read this CJ remember: YOU CAN NOT ESCAPE KARMA. YOU CAN NOT ESCAPE THE EFFECTS OF YOUR ACTIONS.

Show some humility and respect and you will be paid in kind.

Anonymous said...

This isn't CJ, but as a member of the alleged group, I personally apologize for anything of that nature that happened. CJ is typically very respectful of older people, in fact many of his best friends are older guys so I'm curious what might have happened or was said to him if this did in fact happen. I would suggest however, that most of your other allegations are way out of line or flat out false, and totally discredited any factual point you may have had about what happened in the water. Additionally, sending this garbage all over the internet really accomplishes nothing and it is not your place to anonymously try to enforce some karma upon your fellow man by posting blogs and sending emails. Personally, while I was a bit disappointed with how crowded it was and how similar the dynamics were to a California point break, I had a great time and thank God for having the opportunity to surf there. Personally, I think it's that special of a place. Go once or twice in your life and spend the rest of your life just remembering it...

Anonymous said...

Peter S., I am really not one to revel in all this drama and would rather stay out of a tangle with you, my friend. I hope others reading this will see how disgusting the whole thing is. Nobody even cared about the fins and were leaving the next day anyway. The whole surf community has been alerted to some minor altercation that happened in Mexico and should have stayed there, and it makes everyone, including yourselves, look bad. Like a bunch of kids fighting while mom and dad are out on a date, who can't handle themselves. If I were to make one point to the surf community at large, referencing a recent Nick Carroll article on the matter, is the sense of entitlement that everyone has nowadays. When I was a beginner, I would never have surfed in Scorpion Bay, or Lower Trestles, or Malibu. I just knew I hadn't earned the right to surf those spots. You learn where to surf a longboard and where not to. Those days are gone. We now live in such a litigious society, you have to have a law that clearly dictates every rule because people have no sense about themselves or others.

I can't be clear enough about this, there were other cliques out in the lineup jockeying everyone too, just like at every other point break with too few waves and too many people, they just didn't have any big names with them to blame. And now this is someone's claim to fame - "Look at me! I stole CJs fins!". Like that is something to be proud of, or a stroke of genius! It's cowardice, and so ironic that Sean Collins, the guy jet skiing around caddying guys from the Billabong plane, published it! Spend some time doing something positive, people! I now know why so many guys just hang up their boards and quit surfing. The good ones usually can't take it. Like Bear.

Anonymous said...

Cleveland is known to be combative in and out of the water. No doubt about that....Shame on anyone who participates in such activities. Remember - In the big scheme of things, people will long remember the things you do wrong and easily forget the things you do right. How do you want to be remembered?

Anonymous said...

I was there. I didn't surf 2nd point but we watched the hassling for a while from the top of the point. These guys just paddled around everyone else who were waiting their turns.

Most of the time people there can take turns and it can be a great experience where everyone gets waves. When perople like this show up they blow the whole rotation thing and it turns into an ugly free for all.

The best line I heard from from a local girl who surfs it all the time was from one of a surfer in this group "I'm going to take this set wave because they're filming me for a movie." Say what? My friend said "What about me and all the other people out here who have been waiting their turn?" My friend immediatley dropped in on that surfer.

Baja rule #1: travel in small groups or preferrable just a couple people.

Baja rule #2: Don't expose and burn surf spots in Mexico. Baja is still a surfing frontier open to surf exploration. Even if this spot is no longer a secret a lot of people before you have gone to great lengths to keep the exposure down out of respect for this place and the surfers before them. If you come in and film as you did you're just burning this post and all the people before you.

Baja rule #3: Be considerate of the locals and other traveling surfers who have just as mmuch right to the waves as you do. If surfes are trying to share waves and rotae turns, blend in and do the same.

Considering this group broke every one of these rules and probably many more, they got off lucky that all that happened was they were missing some fins.

Anonymous said...

Aggro longboard kooks (pro or not) are everywhere in Santa Cruz. This behavior happens all the time. I guess they're just used to acting that way.

Anonymous said...

CJ Friend, just for the record your comment above and quoted here is a lie:

"and so ironic that Sean Collins, the guy jet skiing around caddying guys from the Billabong plane..."

I surfed with Sean Collins down there during that last swell and he had nothing to do with that Billabong plane and was not caddying people back and forth to the plane. I spoke to him about that plane and was actually surfing with him at 4th point when that plane landed. So he was not caddying people to the plane as you claim because he was surfing with me.

You're just trying to shift the blame eslewhere off of your group. At least get your facts straight as you are accusing others of not doing. Or you're just BS.

Anonymous said...

does anyone know the names of the others in cj's group?

Anonymous said...

sound like everyone needs to stay out of scorp cause theres some gnarly locals down there.
this is the second time i have heard about these so called scorp locals that cant surf very good any wasyyah too bad a pro surfer just getts new fins any ways so fuck offf and grow up surf and enjoy quite being so fucking lame and die.

Anonymous said...

I have a father that surfs. If the descriptions of what occurred to the older gentleman in this incident are accurate, if that had been my father, I would have ended his pro surfing "career" right there. Or died trying. Dead serious. The loss of a few fins was nothing close to what was deserved. The litany of excuses that have been posted here are nothing short of pathetic. Clean up your act before someone does it for you.

Anonymous said...

wow yah gnarly scorp locals heavyier than north shore.
sound like the mexicans should toss them all out

Anonymous said...

ive got guns for whoever messes with my plane!

Anonymous said...

i ve surfed moss landing for over 40 yrs... we woulda had this circus called surfers before they got in the water... they would ve been stopped before they got to the water.. thats why all outsiders know too either come alone or surf the other out bound spots away from the main area that has the better waves.. weve had the media surf photo guys with there teams of pros come to shoot .. they end up surfin some close outs on the other side of the harbor.. if they tried to surf next to the jetty thered definately be a hassle.. soo keep the media guys outta the water and you all will have a good time..

brownfish said...

This is quite an allegation by all parties. I'm not siding with anyone, but, will say this: If you are posting anonymously then your point is null and void. Show some class, both in and out of the water and post your name.

Gary Murphy

Anonymous said...

Was CJ waering his emo garb oR his leather jacket with his surf gang logo on the back. Did he just go with a old 1950's suitcase?

diana said...

haha i just got back from surfing rincon with agro groms... this made my day.... i also really agree with the whole exposing mexico thing, why would you want people know about that place - so you can fight over more waves? ha

Anonymous said...

I was there and CJ and most of his crew were complete dicks both in and out of the water. Enough has been said about him wanting to beat that guy up and the rest of them being wave hogs. What also needs to be pointed out was how rude they were on land. The amount of litter they generated was astounding. Watching them casually toss a few packs worth of cigarette butts on the floor of the cantina every night really told their story to me. They deserved a lot worse than just getting their fins removed.

Who ever is bitching about the Billabong plane definitely was NOT there. Those guys were super low key and very cool to surf with. Were their jet skis ever in the line up? No. Did you ever really notice their cameraman? No. Did they steal your wave? Not even close, in fact they shared more than they took.
Yeah I admit my heart dropped when I saw that plane land, I figured 50 pros would be jumping out. It turned out only 2 people got off and it left 5 minutes later.
Mike Parsons and Dino and Kolohe Andino showed complete respect by driving all their stuff down just like the everyone else and sharing waves and story generously. Plus seeing that plane land and take off was pretty damn cool.

Jim
Hood River, OR

Anonymous said...

Hard to tell what is fact and what is BS with a story like this. If the story is true cj is a b!tch. and if its getting overhyped- then cj is still a bitch cause he obviously pissed someone off good.. fvck you and all other pricks that think they own anything in mex... leave the bullsh!t in cali and let the mexican locals have all the waves they want. give a wave to a old guy, give a wave to a grom, and give a wave to a REAL local every sesh- and count yourself lucky for even being there. Fvckers

J.P. said...

Next thing you know Sean Collins will pay the mayor to chuck rocks at people in the lineup.

Anonymous said...

This is awesome.
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/for/478810282.html

Smoky Swami said...

CJ we barely knew ye. There's always the extreme rollerblading market to tap when your surf sponsor backlash kicks in full force.

Anonymous said...

roby and all his cream riding longboard faggots can suck it. Ride shortboards bitches, o, wait you suck on them

Anonymous said...

in the words of Metallica "AND JUSTICE FOR ALL...."

Anonymous said...

Respect and have a good surf.

A french fan.

java jet fueled funny car said...

thanks for the entertaining read first thing in the morning, time to refill on the java.....

So Fucking EMO!!!!! said...

EMO longboarding is so hot right now, what is a good black nail polish to use?

Anonymous said...

The fins are on Craig's list for $4.00 each. I am willing to pay for 1/2 the cost of an ad in Longboard and Surfing featuring the fins and a reminder to CJ and others to show respect. A full page would be cool if we can raise the funds.
Anyone care to meet me on this challenge?
Email me at in2surfn@mac.com

Jim
Hood River, OR

Anonymous said...

The Craiglist auction is too funny!

In case you missed it, here it is http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/for/478810282.html

Anonymous said...

WELL DONE..THOSE SAME GUYS DO THAT EVERYWHERE THEY GO IN THE WORLD...FROM JAPAN TO CALIFORNIA AND BEYOND. IM GLAD SOMEONE FINALLY TAUGHT THEM A LESSON THEY WONT SOON FORGET!!

Anonymous said...

des a lot of bad juju goin on right now lotta bad juju

Anonymous said...

cj blows coke and is a dike to people in the water, but hes a good fucking surfer. deal with it. and robby's boards dont suck. as a matter of fact, you probably suck massive cock, man or woman. you pussy ass motherfuckers. fuck off. it's fucking scorps. no one owns that fucking place. it's a good fucking wave. so fuck off!

linus said...

This has to be one of the most profound gestures i Have seen towards raiders in a long time. Nicely done, definetly place in monument with a subtle warning.

f said...

This is the problem w/the surf contest culture. The sense of entitlement to what should always be open waves is bullshit.
I remember surfing in OB the first day I got a board and they were have a contest. On a Saturday of all things when guys w/regular jobs have to surf. The announcers and competetors were shitting. I only had an hour window to surf and I hit it. Gee, and my longboard. A "competetor" was yelling at me even though I was sharing waves and finally dropped in on me. I guess that shove in the ass over the back of the wave scored big points.
Surf contests and their widespread fallout and effect suck heavily.

Anonymous said...

The responses to the accusations that have concentrated on disparaging older surfers strike me as being imbecilic in the extreme. Let me spell it out for the mentally handicapped. Dumb ass, as a “pro longboarder” your target fan demographic is surfers over the age of 40. They are the only ones that give a fuck about what you can do on a longboard. You found yourself a nice little niche in the surfing world. A place where someone of sub par talent, someone who would probably be incapable of advancing out of a single heat in the nearest NSSA Juniors division, can eek out some kind of recognition via surfing. By doing what you just did, you just pissed all over the people whose support you need to make you anything even close to a “pro surfer.”

I would suggest that if you hold older surfers in such high contempt, perhaps you should go surf something other than an old man wave, on something other than an old man board. Take your clown act to someplace with real surf and see what happens. Kooks

the dragon said...

rich old maggots whinning about what some spoiled rich kids did down at "their" surfbreak... I have been down to San Juanico a few times and I was appalled at the number khaki-wearing dune-buggy driving "explorers" taking a week off from their corporate jobs. What nerve to get on some spoiled children (CJ and crew - who are just like your spoiled-brat children... just a different sport) who are down there being losers because they don't have anything else better to do! (no jobs / no education)!!! I hope you have fun shoving those fins up your asses... check out my freinds website at richfucksandspoiledbrats.finfight.blogspot.com Why don't you kooks pack up your land rovers and get home to your neglected drug-addict corporate wasteland children... and leave baja alone...

Anonymous said...

What ever happened so be it... I know when I get into it with someone, I usually think about it for a few days. Lessons I could learn and they as well.

One thing I absolutely cannot stand is all your Fu@#ing rules.... 1, you can only show up with.... 2. you have to... 3 blah blah.... F-U. I'll go surf where I F-ing want, with who I want, when I want. I've paddled out at third and gone for the first wave ONLY because no one wanted it, only to paddle back and hear some bullshit from some mega mullet f-er's big red van's girlfriend about how "I need to wait my turn!" What the F are you talking about... No one went on it????

All these "OWNERS" of Scorp need to get F'd, no one is a LOCAL... You are going to die and the next guy's going to come along.. So get over yourself.

Anonymous said...

Those "rules" are fairly international and have been around a long time. If you haven't figured that out yet, you either haven't surfed very long or you haven't been anywhere.

Anonymous said...

spoken like a true dick

Anonymous said...

Beats being a dribbling little cunt.

CJ Nelson said...

Do you guys think I could get our fins back? Ever since we got back, Robbie has been really mad at me and now I have to sleep on the couch. I think if you guys let me have our fins back, he'd let me back in the bedroom. Thanks

Anonymous said...

Whoever wrote "I've paddled out at third and gone for the first wave ONLY because no one wanted it, only to paddle back and hear some bullshit"

Thank you. That is exactly what happened here! I got flack for plucking off a lot of waves that people weren't making and that upset people. These anonymous guys are trying to impose rules as non-locals, and won't show their faces. That says it all.

CJ never threatened an old guy. Total fabrication. In fact, it seemed every day I saw a different guy riding one of his boards that he would lend them. We were quiet, in bed early every night and had a campfire once. Read the satirical post above, that says it all. I'm glad at least a few people here can read between the lines and don't believe everything they read.

Anonymous said...

"you just pissed all over the people whose support you need to make you anything even close to a “pro surfer.”

LMAO! I would have loved to see the expression of realization that came across the idiot's face as he realized what he just did.

Anonymous said...

You're giving them too much credit. I don't think any of them are bright enough to have a moment of realization.

Anonymous said...

WHAT KIND OF A "PRO SURFER" SMOKES CIGS, PAINTS HIS NAILS, WEARS MAKE-UP, TIGHT PANTS AND TORN SHIRTS, AND DOSENT HAVE ANY RESPECT FOR MOTHER NATURE OR THE OCEAN OR ANOTHER HUMAN BEING?????

Anonymous said...

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

A LOT OF THEM.

Anonymous said...

CJ is an asshole

Anonymous said...

BULLSHIT to the guy who just said CJ never threatened the other surfer. I WAS THERE, CJ told him to get out of the water and that he was going to beat his ass, CJ said "one more word and I am going to snap".
He also called on his buddies, Billy in particular, to back him up. CJ needed help to threaten a man twice his age. Talk about a pussy.

Jim

marseille said...

Hey Cj doesn't it feel good to read all these comments about you?

you and billy are little girls.

the dragon said...

you guys bag on CJ for being a pussy... nail painter... why don't you guy pound him? No... instead you come on hear and whack each other off + talk about how cool you are for advocating cowardly nighttime fin heists... shut the fuck up... you are pussys just like him... middle of the desert... no cops... and you won't step up and give him a licking... you are all cowardly pussies!!! WERE GONNA PUT AN AD IN LONGBOARD MAGAZINE!!! WHO WANTS TO SPLIT THE COSTS!!! LETS SELL HIS FINS ON CRAIGSLIST.... PULL YOUR HEADS OUT OF YOUR ASSES... back up the old man next time by kicking some ass you pussies!!! PUSSIES!!!

marseille said...

Hey dragon are you done sucking Cj's knob?

san diego marine said...

the dragon is right... I am probably the only one who has ever had the balls to stand up to CJ and his crew of flunkies... shut up Mari... it is not about CJ... I could care less about him and his crew of EMO meatheads... it is depressing to hear people whinning about CJ... and they did nothing about it... put up or shut up... if someone his age is giving some 63 year old guy shit... then they need to get beat... but stealing fins at night... cmon now...

Anonymous said...

East Coast guy who surfed the same session at Cardiff with him last year.

Lets just say He was not the nicest or coolest guy out there.

I have nothing to gain about saying this, nothing at all.

This is just my personal experience.

This should say something about his character.

Anonymous said...

Those Fins are going to fetch a good price; I'm going to buy a few to hold and waite for the price to increase. Then sell on E-Bay after all of the hype this lame inscedent will garnesh. Then re- sell to the highest stupid bidder so I can afford a trip down their and surf my "glass on fin" longboard. You guy's lay off on CJ!, he's a good guy, Iv'e surfed with him countless times. It's the camera and filming crap that makes all the semi pro and pro's turn into dicks. Remember- add water, camera- instant dick! Believe me I use to be a semi pro, I wasn't always cool! My claim to fame though was that I burned Occy bad at Sunset (short board only!)
Cheers!
Matt Micuda in Santa Cruz

Anonymous said...

As a Valley who shared a session with Miki Dora at Malibu back in '62, I want to say he wasn't nice and tried to decapitate me with his famous kickout when I snaked him. I'm really seeing a pattern here with these longboarding misfits.

waylon said...

FUCK. YOU. ALL.

Anonymous said...

Dragon,
When did violence solve anything?
Look at the world today- has any war made it better?

The Berserker said...

Slinking around in the night is definitely my style,
But stealing fins is truly vile.
Now since your rich kid heros have defiled your cantina,
Perhaps you'll think twice about buying Sprout 2: The emo ballerina.
Exploiting a surf spot is always wrong,
But even worse is passing judgement on who does or doesn't belong.
In the eyes of the true locals,
You're all a bunch or rich american assholes.
Camera crews, sounds like a real circus,
but you'll be first in line to purchase-
the new flick when it's ready to come out...
The raping of Scorpion Bay, the title will say without a doubt.
We sit at home behind the cloak of our computer,
But it's nothing but the equivalent of a modern day pea shooter.
Get back to work boys and girls,
Enough with the fascination of our poisoned Earl.

CJ NELSON said...

everybody fuck off you twats

Gretchen Clark said...

awesome!

marseille said...

For the guy who asked why we didn't beat up CJ the answer is for one why will I put myself down the same level as these guys/ Stealing their fins was much more fun.
Plus we dont beat women.

Anonymous said...

I've grown up in Santa Cruz and have been surfing these waters for over 23 years (shortboard).
From time to time I've had my throwback days when the surf is small and have gone longboarding at 38th ave or Cowells just for a little glide. I've encountered this little emo fag CJ a few times when Ive been out on my log. Once, I was just trippin on how "eye of the tiger" and aggressive he was and it was only 2 foot longboard surf!! Felt like I was trying to do battle with the pack on a 6 ft south at the Lane when it was just a little log session. Pretty comedy when that is your forum for "progressive" longboarding. I could only imagine how he must have been at a decent little wave with a bunch of people he felt he could get over on in Mexico. Not a pretty site.... Emo ballerina... love that comment. All I can say is Punk/Emo.... and Longboarding dont mix without a heavy dose of true soul... and this kid dont have it.

Anonymous said...

Santa Cruz people need a wake up call.

Anonymous said...

All the actions attributed to CJ and his crew are standard procedure (Pros and others) on a typical day of surf at Pleasure Point. Threats, outpaddling, jockeying, team-ups.
Last time I surfed Malibu I was dropped in on for every wave I caught. The first wave, the wave I waited over 30min for and let everyone around me take one, the wave I spun on at the last second as I was paddling out after getting snaked.
The fact is, SB is going the way of SC and Malibu. Such is the face of modern longboarding.
There's more respect in the water at the shortboard places filled with 20-30 somethings.

Phil Myazz said...

did someone mention that aggressive longboarders are simply misunderstood in that they are merely trying to make up for their short comings????

Anonymous said...

CJ IS NOT MODERN LONGBOARDING!!! PLEASE DO NOT LABEL ALL LONGBOARDERS AS SUCH. CJ IS A MIS-REPRESENTATION OF THE SPORT AND THOSE OF US INVOLVED IN IT ARE JUST AS APPALLED AS YOU ARE BY HIS ACTIONS. THE MAJORITY OF THE TOP MODERN LONGBOARDERS ARE HUMBLE FRIENDLY SURFERS. THEY KNW WHAT THE TRUE MEANING OF RESPECT IS AND THEY KNOW THAT EVERYONE DESERVES THAT RESPECT. SHARE WAVES AND HAVE FUN. THAT WHY WE ALL STARTED THIS TO BEGIN WITH...PRO OR NOT.

Anonymous said...

I wasn't even there and it's pretty obvious that CJ and his crew are pretty pathetic. It's about respect others no matter how much money you have or what color your nails are.
It's interesting how CJ's crew are critisizing surfers who actually have a decent job or make any money. When they were down there filming was that not for distribution and sale? Everyone should boycott buying any products affiliated with CJ and crew. Much swifter and longer lasting justice than someone beating the crap out of them.

Grog said...

CJ, I am 64 years old but a fit 190 lbs. Had you threatened me I would have whupped you and then buttf&*#ed you in front of your camera. And believe me that my pecker is bigger than those those retro drift anchor fins of yours. Then, if you sued me I would outspend you in the Mexican or American legal system (coz' I am a rich old fart surfer).

The point is that someone played a PRANK on you. You got off lightly. Pranks are old school surfer stuff. Since you try to make a living out of old school surfing, I suggest you take it like a man.
Oh, I forgot, you paint your fingernails, no wonder I have a hard-on.

Did you paddle around these guys on 10'6" ?

Old Kook said...

Longboard or shortboard...it's surfing, we're here for the vibe, the soul and the beauty of it. The roots of surfing are those things.

We're sitting here reading all these posts and who's to say what's accurate or not. The gist of it all is, whether you struggle to make your surf trip or have the luxury of money (which hopefully you worked hard to earn) we're all there because we love to surf.

Attitude is important. Bad attitudes/behavior gets the karma payback it deserves....whether it was threatening old guys or stealing fins. (Though, I liked the fin pilfering, as it was "old school")

Either way check your Karma or you'll never, ever understand what "soul surfing" is all about.

Anonymous said...

F..K ALL LONGBOARDERS!!!
YOUR ALL DANGEROUS!!!

moscow said...

who wants to place bets on how long this blog thing will last?

Bone said...

Hang on, I need to put some more Orville Redenbacher in the nuker.

By the way CJ, nice instant reputation!

Rick Derringer said...

stealing some dickhead's fins in the dead of night...we are talking many boards...without a sound or a trace...is ultra-commando. CJ, Billy and their moronic cohorts have no idea of the paramilitary skill and experience they almost backed into. they did the right thing thing staying cuddled up in their bunks.

the dumbest thing I have ever seen is a grown man surfer with eyeliner smoking cigarettes on the beach. CJ Nelson one of a kind, a new breed of pathetic.

Anonymous said...

Just so all of you know, Cj ives for this shit. He wants a reputation of being an ass hole. You are only fueling the fire.

Anonymous said...

"Just so all of you know, Cj ives for this shit. He wants a reputation of being an ass hole. You are only fueling the fire."

So why all the above denials? Why all the attempts to divert attention from the issue of his behavior? If what you are saying is true, wouldn't they just come on here and say, 'Yeah, we're pricks, fuck you.'???

Sounds to me like someone is sweating it.

Anonymous said...

Hey ultra-commando. Why did you guys run at the sound of a woman's voice when most the males in camp were in town having fun? Was this part of your paramilitary training? Do you call the 6 of the 8 fins (not 40) you stole that belonged to innocent, hard-working, middle-class people, what they refer to in the military as "collateral damage"? No one's sweating it. I just want people to know the truth. Also, taking pictures of your hand next to a San Juanico sign...you've given more publicity to the place than anyone taking pictures and videos who never mention anything about their locations. Is everyone reading this a bunch of sheep who believe everything they read?

marseille said...

All the anonymous people who seem to support the painted nails ballerina. Why do you hide behind your mama's skirt?

Why dont you name yourself if you are so tough?

Stay in Scorp with the rest of the losers. Dont come to Punta Marquez or will fucking beat your ass to the the ground.
Come and see me, I live on the point.....

Todos Anonymousos said...

above = blow me tough guy

we are all computer dorks on here... we would never actually want to engage in a fight!!!

WE all just like to sit on our computers and pretend like we are badasses... if you are really that hardcore then you should not be on this silly forum!!

Anonymous said...

Being anonymous myself, I'd like to agree with what "Todos Anonymousos" said, except that I don't think I'm a badass.

marseille said...

todo anonymoose

you sure got some great self esteem about yourself.

Gotta go ski pow now!

Anonymous said...

Everybody hula!

Anonymous said...

this is awesome!

Anonymous said...

Cmon, guy, you can't handle some emo bitch face to eyeliner. Feeble. Regulate like men.

Anonymous said...

Dudes. Its SURFING. Chill out. Find yer zone, and catch another wave.

All you folks are fighting over waves you'll never catch again, and I'm stuck up here in SF f'ng LANDLOCKED because my f'ng beaches are all gummed up with f'ng tanker oil and only the local surfers are mobilizing to do anything about it because, DAMN, we can't SURF anymore up here. Anywhere. And guess what? Mavericks is now contaminated, and some 'mystery oil' just showed up in Monterey Bay near Moss and nobody knows wtf it is. The shit is moving everywhere.

If you guys wanna get pissed about something, get pissed about THAT and do something.

At least you guys have waves in Baja.

Ours are oil.

--surfless in san francisco :(

marseille said...

i can't believe that people's continued attempts to lay claim to property that is not theirs. You can't lay claim to the to the waves... they are for everyone to enjoy... if you think that you have the right to them or if you think that you have the right to dictate how other people enjoy them... you are an ingnorant kook... just surf meats! Are you gonna go out on the freeway and tell people that when they can and cannot drive... so that YOU can have no traffic on your way home??? Are you gonna tell people when they can go use the tennis courts so that there is always an open one for you??? Get with it ignorant meats... you are no better than anyone else...

marseille said...

p.s. i like ballerinas and guys that wear eye-liner... come to Punta Marquez and I will make you a vodka cran and smoke cloves with you while I give you a back rub...

Anonymous said...

Thought Id post this. Here is an email conversation with CJ and one of his frineds.

from start to finish

***********************************************
Date:
15 Nov 2007, 16:58 Flag as Spam or Report Abuse [ ? ]
Subject:
RE: question
Body:
yeah man no worries.what really happend was some old men showed up and thought they owned the place.5 minuts after they got there one paddled out and dropped in on me,road on his stomach,got sucked over the falls before he could even make it to his feet and landed on a good friend of mine{billy wilson from malibu whom didnt come with me}.he landed on billy putting his fin through billy new ci and ruinining billys trip.billy snapped and got the guy to the beach yelling and screaming at him and made him pay for his board.not to long after the guy paddled out and i cought him telling some chick how i was getting to many waves and i should have let him go{ he cant even stand up}.i abruptly told him to shut it and stay clear of me and there would be no problamb.like"hey you dont know me just drop it guy" and that was it.then the guys he came with and him had to watch me and my friends get the best waves of our livies for three days.i think the jelousy level got out of control for them and there you go.headlines..............i will ad that alll those guys kissed our asses the whole trip saying how much they loved watching us.totall pussy shit{they could have talked to our face}.any way thats it and all the other bullshit they blamed on us was just a plee to get people to side with ther point of view.truth be known i love the exposure and i want people to know that i dont take shit from some kook.im kinda laughing about the whole thing.i told my clothing sponcer to read it and they gave me a bonus.they hate rich old suv driving concervitives too,funny shit.if you read the scorpion bay blog look for the comment about me killing a baby seal and eating it then doing my chick on the beach[that one was mine] lol..cj

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Mike Filthy
Date: Nov 15, 2007 1:01 PM


holy shit cj , you're the talk of the town . that story is on surfline and shit (BAAAAAWAAAAAAHHAAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAH)
too funny bro .

so did you threaten some old man or something..not that i care..its your deal bro , doesnt bother me at all..

but,,what really happened cj so i can pass the truth on .

if you got the time..if you dont wanna say homey..im cool with that too .

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: *CJNELSON*
Date: 15 Nov 2007, 12:29


i know,can you fucking believe that?????soooo funny.anyway ,hope
all is good with you .try and buy my fins back 4 me ...lol......cj
----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Mike Filthy
Date: Nov 15, 2007 11:20 AM


where you surfing baja recently ?


***********************************************

once again..i believe cj .

Anonymous said...

He should tell his clothing SPONSOR to buy him a dictionary, so he can learn how to spell.

Anonymous said...

Hey CJ! Who is your clothing sponsor. After reading this, I think you and your friends are so cool. I'm gonna go out and buy the exact same panny hoses from whatevever lingerie company is sponsoring you.

Anonymous said...

The guy is so clueless that he's almost funnier than the prank.

Everyone must have been so glad to drive all the way to Scorps just to see him surf. Dude, take another wave!

beavis said...

I bet they mistook his girlfriend for a seal. Easily done.

warm jet said...

That CJ is one badass punk rocker and trend setter!
Don't care how good he surfs or thinks he does, there's always someone better and cooler.
Sorry pal, you're nothing new.
By the way, there's a whole heap of new school 'Doras' at the bu that are beyond you and are not poseurs.
Tip o' the hat to Brownfish and his
comment about anonymous posters.

Anonymous said...

The guy CJ wanted to beat up.......his name is Warren from Oregon.Hes a nice guy but is a total kook in the water.Cant surf a frickin lick.Hes got a very short fuse also.......

Anonymous said...

Can't we all just get alonggg!

team stoked said...

whatever CJ. I shit in the water when you were out there. It was really cool watching you getting barreled with my shit bouncing off your head. On man, good times.

Mr. Hand said...

CJ Nelson is illiterate. Short bus alumnus.

Anonymous said...

CJ said: "then the guys he came with and him had to watch me and my friends get the best waves of our livies for three days.i think the jelousy level got out of control for them and there you go.headlines.............."

CJ, you're as big a kook as anyone. That wasn't even a good swell for Scorps. If waist to shoulder high 2nd Point Scorps for 3 days was the best waves of your lives you're totally lacking.

You're attitude amazes me even more. Can't wait for the next time we see you and your group at Scorps. Let's see how good you can surf when all the boys are dropping in on every wave you catch.

Taking your fins was nothing but you obviusly haven't learned. And if you want to take it to the beach, all the better for the boys. It's Mexico...

cj said...

boys... that is what you maggots are... when you drop in on me I will thank you as I have been trying to perfect my rail slides! little boys... you cry like little boys... act like little boys... and watch me surf like little boys!!! Children... next time I will make you some popcorn so that you can enjoy watching me even more...

The Apathetic Apostle said...

Obviously there is two sides to every story. I completely understand being burned by someone who can not surf that well and that an be frustrating.

But if CJ's email response to his buddy had explained that that was all that happened, and than everything was cool for the next few days, I'm sure we would all respect that side of the story.

What we don't respect is your braggish comments that they had to watch you get the best waves of your lives, etc. And more likely, since there was an altercation at the beginning I'm sure you and your croanies made it difficult for them to catch waves from there on out.

If you would have...I don't know maybe showed a little bit more of an Aloha Spirit and given up a couple of waves, I'm sure you would have earned everyones respect and then been given as many waves as you wanted.

Maybe you should go to Hawaii and do the same thing at Pipes or Rocky and it will virtually guarantee your education to the Aloha Spirit and the act of respecting everyone in the water no matter what skill level.

Next time how about trying to give the "Kook" a tip. Better yet, let them sit deeper than you because when they do "blow the takeoff" the wave is yours.

For a professional, you don't sound very professional.

David

Chip Booth said...

Here is the bottom line. don't bring a crowd and don't bring cameras. leave that shit at home. Santa Cruz is sold out and so is my home Malibu. Its starting to happen at snakes and I DONT LIKE IT. I didn't get to surf that swell cause of my knee but it pained me to see so many people there in mid November.

watching old men with little skills jock for waves is painful. i've never seen so many waves blown cause everybody was jockeying each other out of position. it would be funny except that the number of kooks in the water is growing. personally this doesn't really effect me cause i grew up surfing malibu and surf better than most of you. i can get my waves. i felt like speaking up out of responsibility. we are responsible for what happens to these surf spots that we enjoy. selling out every last one is not responsible.

We don't know each other very well CJ, but I know that you do know how to be respectful. please leave the cameras at home. bring Jen grom and a couple others and come surf, but PLEASE LEAVE THE CAMERAS AT HOME!

Anonymous said...

ahemmm- i believe i said "everybody hula"

David said...

Warren had a hip replacement and has trouble getting to his feet because of his recent surgery. If that makes him a kook in someone's eyes, that's pretty closed minded. As far as his "short fuse"; I've only surfed with a generous and polite guy who's happy and thankfull to be able to surf at all.

Anonymous said...

Is'nt the internet wonderful! We can all tune into the king of surf sellouts Sean Collins surfline forcasts and stampede each other to all the places that were once worth the extra effort to reach. Now we have everything from retro degenerate hero worshipers by the van fulls, to planeloads of expro surfdaddies and their superhyperfrothing little league squeeling sons of bitches clawwing at each others asses in pursuit of airtime and photo sessions. This corporate surf industry mentality really is fuking bitchin eh bros!? I'm stoked I stayed home and surfed Lowers with my friends and local tribemates. To all the Cj matt&Britt robbie crew to sean collins rape the surf spot jaimie atkins pimp on the point selloutts, thanks for the memories, and I hope the muslims don't start surfing too...

Anonymous said...

CJ has a tatto of Dora on his butt, that should tell you something....Thomas Cambell's new movie will have alot of footage of Snake's, that features the Eyeliner Queen 12 footer...Campbell and CJ are both from Fullerton......Elder Abuse is a Crime....CJ looking forward to you next surf at Malibu...how hard is it remove a Steering Wheel, is there a website.......

Anonymous said...

None of that was out of line. Totally legit. I only wish i could have watched them back their finless boards to their BMW SUV's and speed back the the OC

Anonymous said...

We are from from Santa Cruz, dummass, yers truelly... CJ

Anonymous said...

CJ isn't from Santa Cruz. He's from Atherton. Don't worry OC, ya'll couldn't afford it there anyway.

beavis said...

What self respecting "surf" company would sponsor a d*ckwad like that? Eyeliner? Nail paint? I wish that twat would come over here to Hawaii, so the boys could regulate his fairy ass back to the Castro. Go back to smoking dick in your parents house.

Michael said...

Started to read this. Realized I lived in Northern California and had better things to do than listen to people argue on the internet, so I suited up, paddled out, showed some respect (to the one other surfer in the freezing crappy surf) and did what surfers were made to do. SURF.

Anonymous said...

CJ at Pipe? haha. You know CJ can be caught nobbing that Thomas Campbell character. "Yes your majesty I'll do whatever you say sir"

ksurfer said...

Scorpion Bay has become a $hithole. Bad vibes all around. It's sad that such a special place has been ruined. I can't possibly imagine what it must be like for those that have been going there since the 70's. I think it's pretty much over for that place. Within the next few years I think it will either be exclusive (for sean collins and his buddies,-stay clear of the mayor he'll stone you-) or it will be condos/hotels. Either way for me the days are over for that place. Last time I was there some guy was using a dinghy to tow people back out to the lineup???
If capitalism works in mexico like it does here then it's only a matter of time, I think the paving of the south road is evidence enough.

Anonymous said...

Happiness is only real if shared.

Anonymous said...

Should have just killed them. End of story.

Anonymous said...

I am the old guy of the CJ incident, aka Warren in Oregon. This is my story. First I would like to say that my incident was only one of many over three days of surfing. Many many others surfing at 2nd had repeated run ins with the CJ Nelson crew. Drop ins, back paddling, any surf etiquette standard you can name, the CJ Nelson crew did it. I personally witnessed many and had many friends and acquainances from town and the camp tell me their own accounts. On the water and in camp they were a pain in the ass. There were probably overe 100 people in camp during this period and they were the only ones anyone had a problem with. I saw very good surfers who are generous and patient in the water on the verge of violence because of the behavior of the CJ Nelson contingent. I note that a swell earlier had equally as large crowds and there were no significant incidents that I heard of.

'The Incident' goes like this. On the third day of the swell (not the first day as the alleged CJ Nelson email states) I paddled out late morning. Tere were about 6-8 people in the point lineup. My idea was to be low key and not get involved in crap that was going on. (By the way I had been at the campground for 3 weeks prior to this swell, I didn't just arrive.) I sat on the edge of the lineup, people were getting sporadic waves, CJ's girlfriend (as she was described to me) was back paddling people on waves, something she had been doing for days but denying when talked to. Shortly after I paddled out she attempted this again and a neighbor camper stuffed her as she tried to cut in line. Many people in the lineup smiled.

With about 5 or 6 people in the lineup a small set came through and everyone but me, CJ Nelson included, took a wave. I was last in line I figured and it was no big deal. But now I'm alone in the lineup, having been in the lineup for about 20 minutes, not jut arrived. A smaller secondary waves comes through, I'm in position and I'm up. However, CJ Nelson is already paddling back out, apparently kicking out or falling part way down his last wave, I don't know which. Normally it takes about 10 minutes to get back to the lineup after a set wave.

I paddle and I see CJ paddling out, and spin to go. I go ahead anyways. I take off deeper than I would normally do (hey I'm 63, and have a metal hip, I don't usually do deep). I'm on one knee holding my rail,as the wave is quickly steenening (not on my belly as alleged email said), CJ is yelling at me from behind and then I see a guy (Billy I later learn) trying to paddle out through the takeoff zone. There is now nowhere to go but forward. I'm still on one knee, my board passes over Billy's while I'm on it riding (I wasn't rolled by the wave nor was my board loose).

The three of us come up in a pile, my board's fin is through Billy's, no damage to mine. I feel like crap about his board but I think he really is at fault - paddling out through the take off area as people are going onto the wave? Billy and CJ are both screaming at me. CJ is saying, get out of the water you kook! Take him to the beach and pound him. Billy is screaming it's my fault, I've destroyed his only board, I should have kicked out, cut back, read the terrain, avoided him. He is going to put a rock through my board. (There was other stuff but I don't remember)

Billy and I go to the beach, a friend tells me as we get to shore that Billy was at fault. Two more people tell me the same thing and that I don't owe him a thing. Billy is still yelling and threatening but cooling down a bit. I feel bad about his board, no matter who was at fault. I pay him $400 for repairs. He is now cool about things (He says hey I'll come by my camp some evening with my guitar). Many other people are saying I had no reason to pay him or that the repair wouild only cost $100 and I paid way too muuch. They tell me I should cancel the check. I don't cancel the check.

I go back out to the lineup. I'm telling a friend about what happened. CJ Nelson comes by, apparently hears some of the conversationn and tells me if I say one word to him, he might snap. He tells my friend that I burned him big time on a wave. I hang around for awhile thinking I'm making a point but it's no fun.

That night CJ Nelson and friends fins disappear. All except one board, that is, that one belonged to a woman pro surfer in the group who had waited in the lineup like everyone else. End of my story.

Regarding my alleged kookiness, I catch and make about 95% of the waves I paddle for at 2nd. I'm conservative on the takeoff, not real deep, usually, but I cross step and can sort of get to the nose. Journeyman surfing I call it, get the job done but not very fancy. I always always watch the lineup rotation, it makes surfing there fun. I don't druve an SUV. I've camped, fished, windsurfed and surfed in Baja for 13 years.

One final note about old guys. All the testosterone addled commenters bad mouthing old guys surfing, try to remember that one day you'll be old. If you paid attention in math class you'd even be able to calculate when that is. Don't cut your fun time short.

Warren in Oregon

Anonymous said...

Hey 63 year old man. Leave CJ alone. He's still trying to figure his identity out. Witch board will be cool next. Or if he should get a wetsuit with JApanese rubber. Or water resistant nail polish. Water proof cigaretts. You know, the things retro longboards have to worry about. They live in a underground culture and don't get a lot of attention. It's hard for them.
Thanks

Porkfessor Dingledork said...

First off, cheers to Warren, 63, and other metal-hipped long-haulers looking for a little peace and space (although, as I’m sure you’re aware, there are much quieter Baja destinations). My 60-something-year-old dad lives down there year-round, so I can empathize.

Frothers and filmmakers: Please give these guys some room and respect. After all, we are all headed down that road — at least those of us who don’t succumb to emo malaise and OD.

I confess that, from a distance, I enjoyed the Thomas Campbell offerings, even rooting for the protagonist — that free-thinking countercultural anti-hero sharing waves and surfing simply for the joy of it — without giving much thought to possible consequences of these films.

Looking a little closer, the “sponcer” stickers come into view, along with guys like Tudor and Nelson hassling for waves in front of the camera. (Of course, I should also factor in Dan Malloy cheering my frustrated wife into that wave at Rincon.) Maybe it’s time to leave the cameras at home — in Santa Cruz.

And why is it that so many on-the-road incidents of selfishness (and cigarette-butt trails) seem to trace back to Santa Cruz? I’ve witnessed the Santa Cruz scowl and bizarre sense of entitlement in Humboldt, at the upper Ranch and in deep Baja. Is there something about Santa Cruz — the crowds, the groupthink mentality — that breeds this behavior?

Why were those three guys with “Westside” sweat shirts and bumper stickers growling among themselves about local this and local that at the fake point in Northern Humboldt recently? Just surf, gapers. For God’s sake.

What happens in Santa Cruz should stay in Santa Cruz.

Oh. There is no chance the clubbing-seals-with-John-Peck letter and “CJ’s e-mail” were written by the same person. Zero. The former writer, even with his weakness for generalities, showed some flair, a nicely fucked-up sense of humor and proof of literacy. The simpleton who wrote the CJ e-mail, on the other hand, has never read a book. In fact, he or she has had very little contact with the written word.

Maybe it was composed by a young CJ minion? Or was it some snarky hater’s attempt to cast CJ as illiterate? Or — my favorite option — did the creator think he or she was supporting CJ while actually smearing him with dog-shit-level stupidity?

It is very unlikely that someone — even a “professional” surfer — could make it to adulthood so illiterate. With all that traveling, there must be plenty of down time. CJ can’t spend all of his spare moments painting his nails, shopping for jewelry or browsing the photos in fashion magazines.

If the e-mail was actually CJ — oh, dear. And his “sponcers” are propping him up in a meadow with a book for photo shoots? Dora, while a thief, was at least a smart cat with something to say. Not a surf “sponcer”-created insta-lectual.

All that said, having read through all 147 comments, I was left with a question: Who is the real CJ?

Which was easily answered: Who cares?

Anonymous said...

hula!

Anonymous said...

WEll finally some good press for gay Nelson (ha-Ha). Cuz that god awful Steve Cleveland movie "Another State of Mind" should in short be recycled plastic! Most horrible movie for the biggest asshole and friends...Stay in SC, you frozen stumpy dork.

spell check said...

"sponsor"

Sigmund said...

So CJ Knuckledragger, an alleged uneducated, cigarette smoking, backpaddling longboarder who likes to drink beer and terroize 'old guy kooks', is the focus of all this fuss over shoulder high waves at 2nd point Scorpion Bay. CJ is nothing new at this spot. Who can forget the delights of surfing with Nate and the Wind and Sea Crew. Or the joy of having Sean Collins, who used to know better, pull in with full entourage/circus and then proceed to foul the lineup with noxious fumes off his jet ski. Or perhaps multiple collisions with the Malibu Longboard bowling pins would be to your liking. All of you you froth over every So. hemi forecast and head down to Scorpion Bay get what you deserve. Alot of hassle, drama, and expense for generally little return wave wise. I dislike surfing with wavehogging, selfish, boneheaded losers like CJ. So when those special looking so. swells materialize I go to ....... Hope most of you never catch on. Peace.

Tinker said...

I have decided to move to Santa Cruz to become a part of CJ's crew. My mom says I am a really good longboarder and hanging with CJ I bet I would get a lot of waves. Maybe I will even meet some girls. I am not a real good fighter but I can spit a lugie 8 feet and I could watch the boards at night. I feel like I am finally awakening from a deep slumber. I was born to a member of CJ's crew.

Dinglepork said...

Errr, thanks, Spell Check, but I was trying to use the Santa Cruz — or Atherton? — public schools spelling. Maybe I got it wrong? If so, I apologize. I did read 57 posts after the alleged CJ e-mail.

Yuppie haters from Atherton? What the hell? My idiot yuppie brother-in-law just paid $2 million for a house there — just to be in the school district. Oh, dear. CJ, could you please verify whether you wrote the e-mail about the Baja “problamb” and the geezers’ “jelousy level”? It’s wishful thinking on my part, as I doubt it was you, but I’d love to show my brother-in-law the e-mail as a product of Atherton schools.

To all Dora clones: It looks like you may have been out-Dora’d this time — by a bunch of rich, old, SUV-driving, “concervitive” pussies. But, really, if you want to emulate Dora, why not cherry pick the good stuff (while leaving out the theft — of waves, at least). For instance, even if Dora didn’t quite practice what he preached, it was neat what he said about seeking “freedom from affiliation and affectation.”

So look up those words in the dictionary, then look up into the mirror as you put on your emo costume in the morning and ask yourself: “If I’m such an individual, why do my 15 closest friends all dress and speak exactly the way I do?”; “Is this eyeliner really getting me closer to God?”; “Am I really sticking it to the GOP with my painted nails?”; “Is there anything more hard-core than handing my money over to Big Tobacco?”; and “To whom am I really beholden?”

Love,
FP

Anonymous said...

OKEYDOKEY!!!

Anonymous said...

I was at the recent scorpion bay festival for the entire duration of the Santa Cruz church group visit.This is my spin.When the boyz in black figured out they couldnt go deep on their noseriders they were relegated to the "b" team take off zone.There they were forced to do battle with the usuall suspects who hang out inside the first section(begginers and old guys).Frustrated further by their spinouts and inability to negotiate the entire wave they lashed out at the geezers who realized that the noseriders were mere mortals(having surfed with the real legends in the day).They would have gotten by with all their bad behavior but I suspect that they offended a real local or someone with local staus(beloved by the mexicans)If you check ou the arm in the fin picture it does not appear to be the arm of a SUV driving OC soccer mom. Why do those that make money off of surfing for a living think its ok to go to remote surf locations with groups to film movies to prostitute our sport.The Billabong plane landing was obscene. Would have liked to seen the noseriders at third point...

Anonymous said...

I guess the sand bottom of 2nd Pt is filled with their cig/butts - I'm sure the wind blew a lot of them into the ocean. If you don't care for Cj then quit buying Steve Cleveland & Thomas Cambell movies, that'll fuck'm all real good. They'll have to go get jobs.
Congradulations on a job well done. That had to be funnier than shit, taking their fins.

Anonymous said...

Freddie
sounds like the tally is in, CJ has slowly grown into a real peace of shit of a person. He must be proud.

Anonymous said...

CJ joins the ranks of the very few real shitballs out there, like Shannon for the Hook, and Bobby of 38th, who is getting stupider by the wave,
Bunch of wave hog peaces of shit jackoffs.

Apathetic Apostle said...

P.s. FP...Great writing. I'll comeback just to read your posts.

But for your info, that CJ email was real. One of CJ's brilliant Santa Cruz friends thought he'd be cool and post their conversation on a message board at Fantasy Surfer. Not too bright.

Anonymous said...

Hey don't start naming every other Santa Cruz douche bag. That is a whole other blog. To many to list. But I agree with the guy from the hook.

Ando said...

That's wicked funny! There's some douches out here in Massachusetts that need that done to them.

CJ to Mike Filthy said...

another CJ email(ok so this one isn't real):

Dude, whyd u hve to go and show that email to all them guys. Now everyone thinks Im a cook. MAn my majer sponcer "Depends" adult diapers, is telling me they won't give me free product nemore. What am I supposed to do now when I gets real scared from a shoulder high set rolln threw? Oh well, that teachded me not two take credit for other peoples writings. Guess I wont be goin to Scorpeon Bay netime soon.

Bear said...

This Blog is a great example of why I do not travel to places with crowds like Scorpion Bay.

Seriously! Who wants to pay money to go surf a crowded point break? A few of those good ole green American dollars will purchase enough combustion to get you to Malibu or Rincon. So maybe you are land-locked or are just tired of the same east coast sandbar and you are looking for some variety. Well for those of you who just joined the sport and knowledge of traveling surf destinations are limited to the one article you read in Surfer magazine, there are countless point breaks which see empty waves all year round and all through-out the world.
It is a very tense time in the surfing world right now and I'll tell you why. A combination of new surfers, who did not grow up learning surf etiquette, mixed in the line-up with those who were raised on respect and earning your place in the line-up. That combined with an ever increasing litigious society has fanned the flames of localism at many spots. Throw in a dash of real estate trends which have over-blown surf communities and forced locals to move out and you have a serious recipe for disaster.
It has to do with the origins of surfing on mainland USA. In the early days it was difficult to surf. Not just the lack if wetsuits, but the very lack of roads to even be able to travel to those now familiar point-breaks. Surfing was dominated by the type of person who wanted to escape crowds. You had to be a true individualist to love the sport because most times it was just you and God and the ocean. Now it�s you, the grom who thinks he�s at a contest everyday, the local pro, the old timer whose pissed at the whole crowd, the newbie beginner who thinks �snaking� someone is some new aerial maneuver, and God�well he�s sitting out not wanting anything to do with it.
The surf industry is so large now that even our weekdays are crowded. Many people in the industry have that flexible time to go and surf. The surf industry even interviewed 10 random surfers last week to see why the line-ups were so crowded during the line-up. Guess what, 9 out of 10 of those guys worked in the industry.
So surfing has become easy for the curious. With surf schools, private lessons, internet tutorials and websites which tell you exactly how to get to the break; No wonder a place like Scorpion Bay has turned into the Mall of the America�s. I can even see the psychological effects of that ever so popular battle between �Soul surfing� and �Contest surfing�, waying down on many who grew up being told that contest surfing was bad for the soul.

Being a realist, I understand wanting to make a living being able to do something you love. I also understand that with an ever increasing world population there will logically, always be an increase to our surf population.

We can no longer regulate a small population of surfers with the laws passed down to us by the Polynesians. The responsibility also lies in those that cultivate the process of our crowded line-ups. The surf schools, the surf pros and websites should all post these most common of rules.
As a group we should figure out what we need to do to all have a good time with our most passionate lifestyles. I say build more inland wave pools. Heck, I�m even all for building artificial reefs and charging admission to a limited amount of surfers every day. I�m all about crowd disbursal and that should be the lesson for those new to the sport. Satisfaction of surfing isn�t achieved by showing your friends the latest trick you learned. It�s about you, God and the ocean.

P.s. I would love to know who CJ's clothing sponsor is. As a columnist for a large news paper, I would like to speak with them to see if they infact gave CJ a "bonus" for his actions in Baja.

John Simon Ritchie said...

Here are CJ's 2 sponsors:
Arrow Surfboards
Jeff Singson 
General Manager
831.423.8286
2324 Mission St.
Santa Cruz, CA 95060
jsingson@arrowsurfshop.com

Hotline Showroom & Outlet
719 Swift Street Suite 100
Santa Cruz,CA 95060
Telephone (831)-425-5920 ext. 115
Email: info@hotlineonline.com

robin said...

^^^

paul frank.

this is such bullshit. all you pussies wish you surfed like CJ. you spend the next 100 posts denying the fact, but you know it's true.

all i have to say is

www.CaptainFinCo.com

For all you pussies who think CJ needs fins. He don't. He owns his own fin co. HAHAHAHAHA!!! Pussies. No lesson taught her. You risked all that to sneak in and steal that shit but you didn't even do anything worthwhile. COCK SUCKERS!!!!! It's funny how people cream over scorps when there's sooooooooo many other uncrowded points on the trip down. you guys really fucking crack me up.

to "warren": stay out of the water you fucking kook. you belong surfing fucking waist high sano. Not good scorps. No one should be surfing scorps who starts out "on one knee!!!" hahaa you fucking kook. kill your self.

Anonymous said...

Well this Blog did one thing for sure. It's made a few more people know who CJ is. Honestly, I shortboard 90 percent of the time and longboard the other 10, since 1980 and I had never heard of CJ until I read this. Sure I know Tudors name and the old school boarders like Dora, but CJ Nelson. So now my first impression of this cat is that he's a no etiquette surfing, elderly verbal abusing, emo loving, paint nail wearing, cigarette smoking homo who isn't capable of dominating on a short board so and therfore has a chip on his shoulder and must try to over achieve by wave hogging using something that will actually float him. By the way, I heard those Boogie boards are real good at 360's, you should go dominate that sport.

john Simon Ritchie said...

Robin you fucking wanker why don't you just blow your good buddy BJ, his girlfriend can't cause she blew me for $20 in the bathroom at Scorps. She was so lame I made her give me $10 back.

Anonymous said...

We all wish we surf like CJ. I think he is a capable surfer but the way he moves his hands around makes me want to barf. He looks like Frieda Zamba on a longboard but less squaty.

Anonymous said...

Retro Longboards, Eyeliner, Retro Fins, Beavertails, 360 on longboards, Pleasure Point, Smoking Parliment Cigs, Thinking your "movement" is doing something that was actually done 30 years ago is all totally lame and not very creative.

Anonymous said...

Retro Longboarders, Eyeliner, Retro Fins, Beavertails, 360 on longboards, Pleasure Point, Smoking Parliment Cigs, Thinking your "movement" is doing something that was actually done 30 years ago is all totally lame and not very creative.

Anonymous said...

My name is Cody, and I am the cute baby seal that CJ clubbed and ate in the lineup the other. A lot of sea bass, otters, and various crustaceans have been inquiring about what happened, and I've been sitting here in my watery grave, quietly reading your blogs. I thought I should give you all my side of my seal story. I was up the beach enjoying the frolicking typical of a cute baby seal's existence with my buddies, when the loud engines of Dino Andino and Mike Parson's jet skis sent me and my other, cute critter friends running for shelter. I ain't saying nothing…if you've ever seen Andino free surf Cottons in '89, or watched Parsons drop into a 60-foot bomb at Todos from the vantage of a basaltic rock outcropping, you know those guys are nutballs!

Us baby seals don't usually go to 2nd Point because of all the human activity there, but we were chased down there by all the fuel and exhaust fumes. BTW, would someone tell that lady who surfs there, your yelling at everyone in the lineup disrupts the fragile ecosystem us baby seals call home and causes high levels of anxiety and competition in human forms as well?

So anyway, yeah, I popped my seal head out of the water, and low and behold make eye contact with a carnivorous, hungry surfer who had that eye of the tiger look and I knew it was trouble. The looks we exchanged with one another covered the gamut—surprise, fright, anger, and then the conclusive "acceptance phase" often seen in predator-prey scenarios. I finally gave CJ the cutest, saddest seal face I could, but still his determined countenance promised my early demise. I wanted to scream out, “What, am I caught in a net somewhere in the Bering Straight? No!” People in the Americas don’t eat cute animals like Baby Seals do they?! Not this CJ character. The guy totally friggin’ beat me, then ate me right there. I’m here to tell you all that it’s true. I don't care if you're one of the best noseriders of all time, I’m going to start calling the guy friggin’ Bering Straight Cute Baby Aquatic Animal Eater. Put that sticker on your 10-0 Nelson Model, buster! None of my Talapia friends will be caught dead in his fish tacos, I’ll tell you that right now.

-Cody
Cute (Dead) Baby Seal

John Simon Ritchie said...

CJ-
Nice swipe at Parsons and the Andinos, too bad you are so wrong about their ski, was it ever near the line up? They have class, you don't.
Your claim of being "one of the best noseriders of all time" is a joke. Only you believe that.
Nice try but just stay in Santa Cruz and I suggest piss yellow eyeliner, it suits you better.

john Simon Ritchie said...

nice shameless plug for your 10-0 model. It rides like a piece of shit, but then again so do you.

Anonymous said...

To John Simon Ritchie,

Is this the real Syd Vicious? As a dead seal (not CJ Nelson) to the dead ex-bass player of the Sex Pistols, I'd think you'd have more appreciation for a fellow punk rocker. If you hate eye-liner and nail polish so much, you better start throwing away your own Pistols records, Bowie, and Rolling Stones too! Personally, eyeliner won't stick to my seal skin so I can't wear the stuff, and how ridiculous would a seal look with a messy mane of dyed-black hair? Let me recommend a really good punk rock band for you, though, when that Pearl Jam CD on your stereo ends. The MC5! Kick out the jams motherf#@ker!

John Graham Mellor said...

Actually I am spinning in my grave that anyone as lame as BJ would try to emulate me. I mean I couldn't play a note, I was a junkie, and my girlfriend was a real bitch. Oh wait he already has.
I did teach the world to Pogo however.
Sid
PS- I knew BJ would never get the reference and it is Sid, not Syd.

Dead Rock Star Club said...

Oy! Now wait one bleeding minute. Eye liner, nail polish, wiggling your arse on something as big as the stages we used to play on, threatening the elderly, and being utter un-original is so far from the punk rock we invented that this bloke BJ has no idea who we even are!
The Clash, The Pistols, The Ramones never wore make up. It wasn't until the audience started their own bands (Gen X, Souixie and the Banshees, etc.) that make-up first showed on stage.
So tell this fucking wanker that Boy George is not the godfather of punk.
Joe, Sid, Joey, Johnny and Dee Dee

Anonymous said...

"Joe Strummer" and "dead rock star club", while at least someone on here has a sense of humor, I'd just like to say the closest you guys ever have come to punk rock is the poster rack at Hot Topic, and Mama's calling you from Macy's 'cause it's time to meet for a corndog in the food court.

I know, it's much safer wearing surf clothes from the mall and feigning punk rock allegiance through bumper stickers on the back of your Dodge Durango. You better throw away that Social D sticker too...Mike Ness wore eyeliner as well. Your record collection is quickly shrinking.

Speaking of facts...make up...get your facts straight. Ever hear of the New York Dolls? Buy the Nuggets box set and you'll learn that punk rock existed before the Ramones (ever hear of the Sonics?). Also, get it through your head that a lot of ruckus is being made over words exchanged in the water! That's it.

Peace.

-Cody the cute clubbed baby seal

Heavily Glasses Dorkboards said...

Is this a punk rock blog or blog about fake punkers.
Eastside Retro Longboarders= fake punkers

Anonymous said...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Whew

Wanna be a Rock Star but can't play the guitar said...

Good point on the Dolls, I stand corrected. I think the real point is that true punk, like true surfing has become a legend.
When guys like BJ show up with such an obviously mall bought image and then try to be the "real thing" it makes those people who know the difference chuckle. That is why there are 178+ comments.

Warren from Oregon is a realist, he is there to catch waves and have fun. I hardly think a journeyman surfer as he calls himself has any notion of being seen by the crowd.

Yes it was only words, but BJ is a professional surfer and was there to film and sell a story to Longboard and Surfer's Journal. Getting paid to surf and then threatening people in the line up shows how greedy he is and shows his complete lack of respect for his employers and those who buy their products.

The world is getting fucked up bad enough, and Scorpion Bay is going thru big changes as well. People with attitudes like CJ Nelson's are ruining it for the rest of us while people like Warren at least are making the ride to hell fun.

Anonymous said...

The reason why there are 178 comments is the same reason why drivers slow down to see a traffic accident. They secretly love violence and froth at the opportunity to instigate and witness. With a few exceptions, the mentality of most of the posters show them to be no better than early-Primates. There are better ways to make a point than this, and I'm not instigating some kind of a fight with anyone either. My dad is slowing down a lot, but if someone disrespected him he'd verbally put him in his place right there, end of story. He wouldn't be trying to hang out with him and his friends in the cantina, smiling, then later trying to get the attention of the surfing world through a backhanded heist and then making a letter-writing campaign to the guy's sponsors. The thought just embarrasses me for your sake and makes you look like vampires, not respectable men. So, Warren, I'm personally sorry for what happened, but you probably missed an opportunity to show the error of someone's ways and get respect. I don't care what anyone here says, most of the people in our group were the nicest people you'd ever meet, who could only be accused of maybe getting too many waves, which is why so many people at the cantina in reality were sitting with us every night at dinner. But that's not sensational enough to get anyone's attention.

Anonymous said...

uivpzzjCJ just wen't and bought a Morrisy CD to get over this issue.

Anonymous said...

CJ probably learned his manners from watching Wingnut work the crowd. Smiles for the camera, paddle arounds for everyone else.

Anonymous said...

CJ, come home we need you back in S.C. Your home break is overrun with kooks who need a good beating. Congrats on your recent success. Stealing you own fins was a great idea to create all this hype. I heard you were just resigned for another three years. Your a genius brother.

Anonymous said...

CJ- dont know who u are. This whole incident sucks to read about.

I dont have the energy to dwell on whether I have surfed with you all, or been in any position like that with your crew. Been in the water in the water for 25 years on some sort of board, and would hope shit like this would get people on track again. I am not going to pass judgment either, just going to ask a favor.

If anything, a little help.

1) surfing today is 5x more crowded than 15 years ago.

2) Majority of the new surfers haven't a clue about lineup ettiquete.

3) Most new surfers I have talked to are eager to learn that there are rules - to keep you safe, and to show respect. Most don't know what they are doing wrong. Many I have talked to are open to learning some respect for the sport and what is going on in the water.

Al of you on this post seem to be around the sport for awhile.

Instead of throwing hard vibes in the water, take a second to say hello; give some advice. Hopefully that person will impart the same knowledge to another.

We're at a point in the sport where most dont pay attention to whats important. Noobs make mistakes, but can be taught. Experienced guys have the obligation to teach the rest whats going on.

Wherever you are, lead by example.

Barney, In LA County.

Safety First said...

http://www.groundswellsociety.org/surfsafetyalliance/images/brochureFront.jpg

Anonymous said...

From Leucadia surf schools website.

DON'T TAKE OFF IN FRONT OF SOMEONE ELSE:
The surfer who takes off nearest the peak and catches the wave first has the right of way. Once someone is up and riding, do not attempt to catch the wave if it will place you in their path. This is the number one rule in surfing, and breaking this rule is the biggest cause of altercations among surfers in the water.

WHEN PADDLING OUT, STAY OUT OF THE WAY OF RIDING SURFERS:
If you are paddling out, and another surfer is riding, it is your responsibility to get out of the way and not ruin the surfer's wave. For example, If the surfer is riding toward the left on the wave, it is best to paddle right, parallel to the oncoming wave and out of the rider's way, instead of trying to paddle over the green, open face of the wave and potentially in the path of the rider.

DON'T RIDE A LONG BOARD AMONG SHORT BOARD SURFERS:
If you are riding a "long board," it is always possible to sit further out than the riders on "short boards" and catch the wave way before the riders on short boards have a chance to catch it. There are some long board riders who ride long boards just because they are not skilled enough to catch waves on short boards. Then they ride in spots where only short boarders ride, and catch the good waves on a regular basis. What they are doing is stealing waves from others, and should be held in the same contempt as horse thieves of the Old West.

FIND YOUR OWN SURF SPOT:
As a beginner, when you are still gaining knowledge about moving the board around in the water and catching waves, it is best to find your own spot away from a break that has numerous surfers riding it. When you surf a part of the beach which no one rides, it is like going back in time to beginnings of surfing when there weren't a lot of surfers in the water.

IT'S OKAY TO BE A BEGINNER, BUT DON'T BE A "KOOK":
Everyone starts as a beginner. But as long as you follow the rules, show consideration and make efforts to stay out of the way of others, you will never be a kook.

Jim from Hood River said...

Barney,
Words of reason, thanks!

To the nicest people I would ever want to meet,
Just because you say you are so nice does not make it so. Remember that actions speak louder than words and respect is earned not given.
Nice people do not take too many waves; they share. Why did you feel the need to be such a wave hog?
Nice people do not think they are such good surfers that everyone in the cantina wants to hang out with them.
Nice people don't litter.
Nice people tell their buddy to cool it if they see him getting out of line.
Nice people don't bring bad vibes into the cantina about drunken slurs.
Nice people don't show up in huge groups.
Nice people would have apologized to Warren immediately.
Nice people who get free surfboards would have replace Billy's at cost or for free.

Feel lucky that nice people decided to fuck with you. From what I hear you could have lost your boards or car.

I am pretty sure I met you and did get the feeling that you probably are a whole lot more considerate than CJ and a way better human being. It was your choice to hang with the guy. Bummer for you that you made a bad choice. Next time you surf maybe you could help a kook out, you may actually be thanked.

You could have seen respectful surfing and genuinely nice people if you had hung out with Parsons and the Andinos. They had the greatest respect for lesser surfers, didn’t hog the waves, and even took the time to give pointers and talk story when asked. They made surfing fun for everyone, CJ did not.

Jim

BTW- Little Richard was way more punk and wore better make-up than anyone!

Robert W. from Santa Cruz said...

Jim... get your lips off of Andino's and Parson's cocks... we can't really understand what you are trying to say...

Jim said...

I am saying that it is ironic that pro shortboard surfers were much more polite than pro longboard surfers.

jim said...

do you need me to define ironic for you?

Robert W. from Santa Cruz said...

sorry jim... still can't understand your muffled voice... pull the shortboard out of your ass... and the cocks out of your mouth...

Jim said...

Bobby,
Enjoy the 3rd grade, sounds like you are going to be there awhile.

beavis said...

Back in the 60's, some surf mag types went over to Molokai to take photos and poach waves from da boys. That night, all their boards and camera equipment were stolen. The next day, they found all their stuff at the airport. THAT, my friends is local regulation without violence. Everyone say thank you to all the corporate surf gods who dress up kook celebs in surf attire and tow the into waves so that every short bus reject thinks that surfing is bitchen. Fuck corporate surfdom.

Anonymous said...

Yes something good could come of this.Tell all surfers you meet your done with anything makeing money off of surfing.Magazines,movies,contest scenes ect.Try it its easier than you think.Try to stick with only buying boards from your local shaper.Especially boycott all Australian products as their spin on surfing has gotten us into this mess.Avoid hero worship Remember the incident last year as the traveling billabong circus blew up a previously little known spot and then wanted to keep it a secret for the traveling pro tour. This type of mentallity is what is wrong with surfing today.We are just like the rest of America that idolizes their sports(competition) heroes who are pompous overpaid asses.Cant we be different ?Do you need to have the Irons brothers tell you what surf gear to wear? Why dont we land the billagoon plane at Hanalei?Dont let your kids surf in contests,but teach them to have surf tolerance for children,old guys ,and women.Try to be cooler to your fellow surfers and dont paddle out to the top of any name point breaks till you know what your doing and or your not an endangerment to other surfers.Especially during big swell events.Also remember that even though you think your a local or have some sort of entitelment at any spot remember that there probably plenty of people that surfed that spot before you were born.

teeth said...

All you pussies keep fighting over second point, this is what happens to a spot that is suitable for women, children, and kooks.
Come to my spot, I'll get the cameras out and what you get broke off bitches!!

Anonymous said...

To anyone who wants to understand more clearly what happened in Mexico, and our state of mind, I'd like you to all follow this link:

http://www.paperrad.org/animations/bubble.html

sach56 said...

Pinchis Gringos, CJ and the rest of you just leave us alone. This overrun from America has been going on too long. Before long SAN JUANICO will be another Cabo San Lucas and you will have yourselves to blame. American capitalism, greed and arrogance has destroyed countless surf breaks around the world. Get it together before it is too late......

waylon said...

Just wanted to be comment number 200 on this enlighting thread... can't wait to tell my children about my participation in the historically relevant "Great Debate" over who is allowed to surf Scorpion Bay. "Yes Jimmy... your pops was there!!!"

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